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they're against taxes because they think it fuels government and they're against government. they're against compromise -- they're particularly compromised with this particular president for a whole host of reasons. we have the same dynamic. we had back in 2011 when john boehner, i think, left to his own devices would cut a deal with the president in five minutes. >> let's stop for a second. i think they're darn serious. who knows what the world's going to react to this. we don't know. we don't know. forget the market. the world economy doesn't know. my question is this. would the republican party like to go over the cliff hanging onto that 2% rich people and say that's why they did it? can they live with themselves if they do it? >> they have -- in some ways the politics for boehner becomes easier. i don't like to call it a cliff. after they go down the slope. >> why? >> because if nothing happens between now and the oerchd the year, all the tax cuts, puff, they disappear. you come back the first week in january and you pass a bill and then the tee partiers, boehner can make
they're against taxes because they think it fuels government and they're against government. they're against compromise -- they're particularly compromised with this particular president for a whole host of reasons. we have the same dynamic. we had back in 2011 when john boehner, i think, left to his own devices would cut a deal with the president in five minutes. >> let's stop for a second. i think they're darn serious. who knows what the world's going to react to this. we don't know. we...
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not in the state, not to government. again, that gets us towards socialism. what goes beyond socialism is communism. i know i'm going to get slammed for speaking to blunt biabout what's going on. >> there's sean hannity getting history lessons from sarah palin. wonderful. >>> next, a bit of the postmortem from "mad men." what romney staffers nicknamed their ad team. manchillow thinks they did a few things right. first of all, he says, their in-house production operation allowed them to churn out ads in record time. but minutekhillo also say if you make the chinese news agency angry, i figure you're doing something right. romney drew their wrath for promising to label them a currency manipulator. unfortunately for the mad men it wasn't just the chinese who were paying attention. general motors spokesman accused them of entering into a parallel universe with that ad saying jeep was shipping american jobs to china. >>> finally a toddler takes in cnbc's fiscal cliff talk. >> that's like young kids who say they like me saying
not in the state, not to government. again, that gets us towards socialism. what goes beyond socialism is communism. i know i'm going to get slammed for speaking to blunt biabout what's going on. >> there's sean hannity getting history lessons from sarah palin. wonderful. >>> next, a bit of the postmortem from "mad men." what romney staffers nicknamed their ad team. manchillow thinks they did a few things right. first of all, he says, their in-house production operation...
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that too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had, a chance. there are millions of mario rubios across america today. they are not looking for a handout. all they want is a job that provides for their families. >> one man is standing by mitt romney. after listening to ryan and rubio's remarks, today rush limbaugh said this. >> one thing i will tell you is that what animated both these guys was romney's 47% comment. the republican party is running away from that. if the people of this country are not -- if a majority are not taught, educated, inspired, motivated to solve their own problems at least in part, nothing is going to change.ç the democratic party is always going to win. we are never going to come man deer the notion that we are the party of government. >> joining me now, msnbc political analyst e.j. dion and richard wolf. i'm so struck seeing paul ryan at the jack kemp dinner. i don't know how you can can idol i idolize
that too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had, a chance. there are millions of mario rubios across america today. they are not looking for a handout. all they want is a job that provides for their families. >> one man is standing by mitt romney. after listening to ryan and rubio's remarks, today rush limbaugh said this. >> one thing i will tell you is that what animated both...
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this is the party whose fundamental premise is to cut government spending. you ask them to identify how they want to do it, and they start speaking in gibberish. it shows you this is a phony, phony movement on the part of conservatives to cut government spending. >> absolutely. ari, the president took a question on twitter this afternoon. quote, what is your opposition to taking away deductions for the 2% rather than upping the rate? seems like a reasonable compromise. his answer, not enough revenue unless you end charitable deductions. he's right, isn't he? the math doesn't add up. it didn't add up with mitt romney. it doesn't add up today. >> it doesn't add up, and those targeted revenue measures serve certain goals that we actually care about more than helping billionaires. those goals include what you just said, incentivizing charitable giving, and also home ownership, which is a middle to upper class benefit, but it's one that we've always encouraged with the mortgage interest rate deduction because we want people moving into the middle class. that matt
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. >> it's very important that people think about the fact that in theory americans like small government. but in practice when you start talking about popular programs, they get very, very snippy about you threatening to cut anything. so what we have here is a situation where they've taken -- the republicans have taken away the presidential talking point of, well, republicans don't have a plan. but they have not taken away the talking point of, well, republicans want to cut all this so that they can keep tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. and until they address that issue, i think from a perform r standpoint this could remain politically disastrous for them. >> now, ezra, they keep talking, they being the republicans, like this was a status quo election. but you wrote today that they are in a weaker position this time around and know it. you wrote, boehner opens his latest letter by reminding the president that 2012 was a status quo election in which both you and the republican in the minority in the house were re-elected. that's technically true and in every other way incorrect. the
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a bloated federal government that wants to spend too much to help the poor. >> government's approach has been to expand bureaucracy and spend lots of money on bloated top-down anti-poverty programs. we're trying to measure compassion by how much we spend not by how many people we help. >> the takeaway, we care. we care about the same things we always cared about -- cutting taxes and slashing the government. in "the daily beast" calling this attempt at rebranding, if you will, gaseous rhetoric. saying until these guys actually embrace some amount of policy change, it's same old, same old. >> you know i think rubio at least his suits fit better than paul ryan's suits do. watching them, on the one hand it's cool watching them being -- trying to be progressive. but it's -- these suits are ill-fitting these compassion -- sudden compassion for the poor. it's a little bit like listening to bloomberg speak spanish. >> nice try but awkward. >> i'm happy to hear paul ryan talking about the poor and i hope this is a trend in the republican party. >> i don't know -- if i were paul ryan's strateg
a bloated federal government that wants to spend too much to help the poor. >> government's approach has been to expand bureaucracy and spend lots of money on bloated top-down anti-poverty programs. we're trying to measure compassion by how much we spend not by how many people we help. >> the takeaway, we care. we care about the same things we always cared about -- cutting taxes and slashing the government. in "the daily beast" calling this attempt at rebranding, if you...
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certainly don't want the government to do that. so i think that that has really contributed within the party towards this movement. someone like an an dry brightbar was very vocal on this area, very supportive of gay and lesbian republicans, transgender republicans, bisexual republicans, so there's a growing network within the party of folks that recognize culturally where we are and that has very little to do with our politics. >> but the libertarian wing is barely even a wing of the conservative party. i mean -- >> it's not a libertarian wing. it's an attitude. it's the attitude. it's the core attitude. >> they are much more -- are much more wanting to regulate these things, and, you know, the will and grace and the dick cheney are huge -- have had a huge impact on how we look at gay marriage, and, you know, dick durbin was satisfying the future is marriage equality, and i think the future has really galloped along. i mean, it's amazing how far we've come. >> the future is here. >> yeah. >> the future is now. >> yeah. >> it's whe
certainly don't want the government to do that. so i think that that has really contributed within the party towards this movement. someone like an an dry brightbar was very vocal on this area, very supportive of gay and lesbian republicans, transgender republicans, bisexual republicans, so there's a growing network within the party of folks that recognize culturally where we are and that has very little to do with our politics. >> but the libertarian wing is barely even a wing of the...
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the government is a staunchly secular one. they believe syria is engaged in what they consider a jihad or a holy war, and they're using that to rally muslims from all around the world to come and join the fight. western intelligence sources and others have reported on the participation of fighters from the caucuses, central asia, as well as from iraq and other neighboring countries. there's no doubt it is galvanizing many fighters to come and join what they say is a religious fight against secularism. >> we've heard talk of an increasingly desperate syrian government considering the use of chemical weapons against its own citizens. is this still a possibility or has president obama's warning been taken to heart by the authorities? >> well, it's extremely difficult to ascertain right now whether or not that is going to unfold like that. what we do know from western intelligence officials who have told nbc news is chemical weapons have been mixed at least in various military facilities in and around various parts of syria, but a
the government is a staunchly secular one. they believe syria is engaged in what they consider a jihad or a holy war, and they're using that to rally muslims from all around the world to come and join the fight. western intelligence sources and others have reported on the participation of fighters from the caucuses, central asia, as well as from iraq and other neighboring countries. there's no doubt it is galvanizing many fighters to come and join what they say is a religious fight against...
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>> i think there's a lot of money at the government. one of the things i've been doing on my tour is realizing the u.s. government has all kinds of earmarked moneys for minorities and women, particularly women. they don't have the money to market those opportunities but they're there. i think there's all kinds of opportunities where there's small business loan, government contra contracts, there's all kinds of things, other ways she can det money right now without giving up a piece of the company. >> this is going to be a war. knew get the last word. >> if i sold out early on i wouldn't have made the money made. i think those of us that know a certain market, she knows her market and extending it. usually when you know your market really well it becomes universal. knew don't have to be in the government to get the money. the private equity. i think she gets a lot better advice if she goes to an angel. >> we will leave it there and love a panel that disagrees with each other. thanks. >>> another company is seeing rapid growth thanks to a
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but right now it prevents the federal government from granting recognition to same-sex marriages like, for instance, in new york. if that is struck down, the people who are married in states that allow it will get full federal recognition. >> which is over more than 1,000 federal benefits that go along with that. >> it's very important. it would be very significant. >> jonathan, we talk about prop 8 in california. if that is struck down, does that mean marriage equality then for all intents and purposes is legal in all states? does what happens in california then change the relevance for 49 other states? >> well, this all gets to how the supreme court rules. you know, i think it was the ninth circuit -- the ninth circuit court of appeals when they upheld the decision written by judge vaughn walker. judge vaughn walker didn't go for the big expansive constitutional right to marry that ted olson and david boies was hoping he would go for. he had a very narrow ruling. will the supreme court stick to that narrow ruling? if they do, same-sex marriage, assuming prop 8 is knocked down, then
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and here's what caused this didn't say he didn't say the government should take away people's guns he didn't say we should repeal the second amendment and he didn't call for limits on gun ownership still the conservative media and the blogosphere load up with fiery outrage towards cost to us and fox news is still talking about it today so if we really come to a point in this country where uttering the word gun is akin to screaming out the f. word for all they hear joining me now to talk more about this is the neil mccabe editor of the guns and patriots column for human events online in the elven i've been all fired up tom have you been absolutely what he was quoting a fox sports guy well you know not all fox is right fox's fox yeah exactly got that so you know what's wrong with what bob costas said i mean just fundamentally what's what's wrong with the a you know if this was if this was sort of you we were talking about entertainment we would say that this was sort of one of these moves to exploit a tragedy and sort of drum up the crowd and really exploit a tragedy given his girlfrien
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it was about lower taxes or higher taxes less government or more government, more freedom and less freedom. and republican ideals mitt romney carried the day. stevens was a controversial figure throughout the campaign. he drew criticism externally for being too cautious in defining his candidate and internally for being a sometimes divisive and material figure. in august a new republic profiled him as friendship with mitt romney. the article was published under the title the square and the flare. i've known stuart stevens for a long time and i am pleased to have him here at this table this one of his first conversations about the politics 2012, who won, who lost and why. thank you for coming. >> well i can clarify that. we lost. >> rose: but when did you think you were going to lose? >> we're always very realistic about it contrary to some roorts. we thought we had a good chance to win. after the storm i never had a good feeling. not that the storm impacted things that much per se but these races, a race like this is a lot like an mba game and it's all about ball control at the end. we wen
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the people running the government. the politicians. good politicians don't take their countries off of cliffs. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politicsnation" with al sharpton starts right now. >>> thanks, chris. and thanks to you for tuning in. i'm live from washington, d.c. tonight's lead, the end of an era. for more than 20 years republicans have calmed to the one policy that's crippled our ability to get things done in washington. do you remember this? >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> read my lips, no new taxes. george h.w. bush hammered that mantra to win the white house in 1988. but just two years later, the reagan deficits were skyrocketing and president bush was forced to change his most famous line. >> long and bitter battle over the budget officially ended last night. president bush put his signature on the deficit reduction package, including $140 billion in tax increases. >> tax increases. that was a turning point for the modern republican party. the right wing went crazy. and george bush lost re-elec
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i felt government was not doing a whole lot. i think government should be there for the poor. i think it should be there as a framework for how we conduct business and a structure for society. when you read the constitution, that is what the founding fathers had in mind, i believe. i do not think government is there to prop us all up, because then there would not be a safety net left for the people in life who really need it. the disabled, people who fall on hard times and need a little help along the way, but i feel as though government now has grown too much beyond what our founding fathers wanted it to be. by the people, for the people. it is a framework, in my opinion, for how we live our life and conduct business. >> go back to that table you used to sit around at home. where was it? who sat around the table? what did your mom or dad do? >> i grew up in virginia. when we all got home from school, my dad got home from work and mom was always cooking mostly a good meal. it was a time when we all sat down. i remember watching walter cronkite at the time during the hostage cr
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government. and i welcome that. he's choosing to do it outside now rather than inside the senate but he's had a huge, positive influence on the senate and we're going to continue to see that for years to come. >> senator, this may seem like a simple question, but i wonder, and a lot of people do is the senate from your perspective, is the senate a difficult place to be if you are someone who comes from executive background or someone committed to getting things done? is it a frustrating place to exist, day in and day out? >> i would say to you, i saw the article that you wrote earlier today, governors do -- who are used to having their own planes and flying around their states and controlling their own schedules do find it more challenging in the senate. i came from the state senate in wyoming. i enjoyed the opportunity to work with people on both side of the aisle to discuss the issues and continue to try to move proposals forward that i believe in about. i believe this is a place where you can
government. and i welcome that. he's choosing to do it outside now rather than inside the senate but he's had a huge, positive influence on the senate and we're going to continue to see that for years to come. >> senator, this may seem like a simple question, but i wonder, and a lot of people do is the senate from your perspective, is the senate a difficult place to be if you are someone who comes from executive background or someone committed to getting things done? is it a frustrating...
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led and something that government implements. traditional american view. you have voluntarilies and faith based organizations and pta, scouts and the church that help the communitis and be self reliant. that doesn't mean you are on your own. we as individuals reach out to our neighbors by voluntarily and help ourselves when we need help. that needs to be taught again. >> in the last seconds, in 2007, i was in the white house and president obama tried to get the comprehensive immigration bill . senator reid put the stake in that and it went away. now there is calls for comprehensive immigration. >> i am glad you bring back the history. it shows hypochrisy. senator reid and senator obama were against the immigration reform. they want to put edges . they don't want real reform and they could have already done it and right now, the house controlled by the gop, has passed now the stem act. >> which helps to bring science and technology . engineering. >> compres hencive reform. i am skeptical. >> i am skeptical and i am not sure we do
led and something that government implements. traditional american view. you have voluntarilies and faith based organizations and pta, scouts and the church that help the communitis and be self reliant. that doesn't mean you are on your own. we as individuals reach out to our neighbors by voluntarily and help ourselves when we need help. that needs to be taught again. >> in the last seconds, in 2007, i was in the white house and president obama tried to get the comprehensive immigration...
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i wanted to believe he was not going to govern the way he governed in the first term. it was a complicated vote. mccain and palin were not as strong a ticket as i wanted them to be. my parents do not go around and say, look how much we had to overcome to get where we are. my parents carry around -- when we are going through bad times as children and we need peptalks, that is when my parents say if we had to go through the crap we had to go through, you can suffer. you keep pressing forward. it is not to say that racism does not exist. but parents tell me we feel the country is more divided now in a subtle way than it was when they were sitting at lunch counters. >> let's go back to that meeting again. you had an exchange with al sharpton. [video clip] >> the supreme court is the law of the land. when the case is taken to the supreme court, they will look at what is passed in 2008 by a majority of 6-3, and they will say, that is precedence. and indiana free voter i.d. >> they did not say all of those things -- >> let me finish. you misrepresented what i said. the suprem
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can take care of itself better than the government can. >> do they get heated? rewhat pearlman? did they get heated? >> they would say things like, this is actually on fairs children when they were having the recall on the governorship, somebody said maybe kelsy is going to run. i said i hope he does declare he's going to run because i'm going to contribute a million dollars tomorrow to defeat him. >> who said that. >> one of the producers of the show. >> you were outnumbered. >> i'm always downnumberred. >> coming up, dennis leery and john lovitz unleashed. >> i believe in a strong military. >> later, ted koppel and i go head-to-head over the popularity of the fox news channel. >> tonight, actors rob lowe, kevin spacey have become outspoken in the world of politics. we sat down recently with them. >> you say that hollywood is a one-party town, liberal democrat town. is there a reason for that? >> i think that -- i don't know what it says, not meant to be a judgment, but seems to me like creative people end up being democrats, and it's been that way -- >> is tha
can take care of itself better than the government can. >> do they get heated? rewhat pearlman? did they get heated? >> they would say things like, this is actually on fairs children when they were having the recall on the governorship, somebody said maybe kelsy is going to run. i said i hope he does declare he's going to run because i'm going to contribute a million dollars tomorrow to defeat him. >> who said that. >> one of the producers of the show. >> you were...
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government works now. and why a man such as himself might want a particular job in washington at a time like this. listen to this part of the tape. this is where general petraeus makes his argument for why in particular running the cia would be a really good job to get. >> an awful lot of what we do in the future, believe it or not in libya right now, perhaps, is with that organization can do. we're going to be retrenching militarily. again, you're going to take big budget cuts and that's going to be all about -- it's going to be the post -- sort of the early 1990s kind of stuff. >> it will be the "peace dividend." >> the other folks on the other hand will be in a growth industry in our intelligence community. going to have to be. >> general petraeus telling fox news in this meeting he would be happy not just being named chairman of the joint chiefs, but with the cia director job because they are the same sized jobs or at least they are going to be. arguing that the future of national security in the unite
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that's an issue for local government. and again, to conclude without getting too much on a soap box. senator is correct. this response cannot be about the of federal government bailing, you know, everybody out for every dollar. it's got to be smart leveraging of the power of the local government to leverage their own asset, and using the power of the private market to leverage the assets we need for smart rebuilding and so those loans are important to leverage the assets of the local government. so we don't have to -- we can do a combination of the grant, give them power to, you know, leverage their borrowing capacity, and through new market tax credit which is not a subject here. but is an important part of the recovery that come under finance. i want to raise the issue we found them to be effective. senator coats. >> thank you. two final questions here. secretary donovan, you -- supplement probably come our way this week in the next couple of days at least. you have a sense of when the long-term recovery cost estimates
that's an issue for local government. and again, to conclude without getting too much on a soap box. senator is correct. this response cannot be about the of federal government bailing, you know, everybody out for every dollar. it's got to be smart leveraging of the power of the local government to leverage their own asset, and using the power of the private market to leverage the assets we need for smart rebuilding and so those loans are important to leverage the assets of the local...
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but with the government wanting to tell women whether they can or cannot have abortions . i don't hear as a matter of birth control anybody saying that the government has the right to tell a man to have access to me or not the government doesn't touch men yet there are just as much responsible prefer birth control as women elouise very eloquent point thank you for calling and making appreciate your doing that and i remember the comment that was made i forget by whom i might have been. might have been jane fonda but i'm not sure that if if if men could get pregnant then abortion would become a sacrament adam in rockville maryland adams thanks for calling you want to talk about discrimination. i'm great that i get better health care. now the last person that you had on the. last argument. those are my. college. grad students. now why would i want why would we want to do that. i don't it seems adam thank you for the call it seems crazy talk to me frankly and it's not anything that i it's not a world that i would want to live in it's not a country that i would want to live in
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it's to have the federal government recognize her legal marriage. >> right. >> vis-a-vis the internal revenue service. because when her partner of 42 years died, she owed $363,000 in federal estate taxes that she would not have to pay if her spouse had been a man. >> and that's a great point because she was legally married in canada, lived in a state that marriage equality is legal. so we're not asking in this case for them to affirm the marriage. it's just for them to affirm where she is legally married that the federal government has to respect that, rich around. >> yes, that's true. but i think that the big picture we want to emphasize today is that we are at the beginning of the end of this struggle perhaps. >> right. >> and that these cases are perhaps among the most historic that any of these justices will ever decide because they are defining right before our very eyes what it means to be an american, what rights do you have as an american and as you so eloquently said at the introduction to this segment, this is what we are about. in june we are going to hear from the supreme
it's to have the federal government recognize her legal marriage. >> right. >> vis-a-vis the internal revenue service. because when her partner of 42 years died, she owed $363,000 in federal estate taxes that she would not have to pay if her spouse had been a man. >> and that's a great point because she was legally married in canada, lived in a state that marriage equality is legal. so we're not asking in this case for them to affirm the marriage. it's just for them to affirm...
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states began prohibiting alcohol before the federal government passed the constitutional amendment to do so. and once prohibition was the law of the land, through that constitutional amendment, it was actually states that first began breaking that consensus by basically, in opposition to the federal government, essentially legalizing alcohol. there is a similar movement happening now, happening tomorrow, actually. and 50 years from now or 80 years from now, we may look back on december 6th, 2012, on tomorrow, as an equally epoch ral moment, as the end of prohibition 2.0. tomorrow washington state will begin the process of implementing the most liberal marijuana regime in the world, along with colorado. on election day this year, voters in both colorado passed ballot initiatives legalizing react rational use of pot. in washington, as of tomorrow, it will no longer be against the law to have in your possession up to an ounce of marijuana if you are over the age of 21. that happens tomorrow in washington state. there are many, many unanswered questions as to how this will work in the act
states began prohibiting alcohol before the federal government passed the constitutional amendment to do so. and once prohibition was the law of the land, through that constitutional amendment, it was actually states that first began breaking that consensus by basically, in opposition to the federal government, essentially legalizing alcohol. there is a similar movement happening now, happening tomorrow, actually. and 50 years from now or 80 years from now, we may look back on december 6th,...
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the bottom line, i think it is no way to govern. it is a giant mistake to have all of this in a pool of ambiguity. as i understand it, now, you would know more, it truly is a stalemate. they are not talking. >> you point out, it is the same players. i think you will agree the players that matter most are the president, speaker finger. what we know about their personal -- speaker john boehner. what we know about their personal relationship right now? >> it started out last year when they were working on the debt ceiling. it was called the merlo and the correct meeting. in other words, john boehner would have a merlo and obama would chu nicolette's. -- chew nicorettes. and they had iced tea for obama. of course, john boehner had his cigarette and put his cigarette in the ash tray away. they have not closed the deal. -- close to the deal on the personal relations. i think that is a shame. somebody said, instead of sponsoring a breakfast you should sponsor a weekly dinner between president obama and speaker john boehner and everyone wou
the bottom line, i think it is no way to govern. it is a giant mistake to have all of this in a pool of ambiguity. as i understand it, now, you would know more, it truly is a stalemate. they are not talking. >> you point out, it is the same players. i think you will agree the players that matter most are the president, speaker finger. what we know about their personal -- speaker john boehner. what we know about their personal relationship right now? >> it started out last year when...
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what is your government doing for you today? is it preparing to drive itself over a cliff like thelma and louise? >> despite the claim that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next year. >> if we go over the cliff, you are going to have a slowdown in economic growth of at least a 4%. that puts us back into recession, meaning 2 million people lose their jobs, unemployment goes to 9%. >> that is erskine bowles, who along with alan simpson shared the deficit reduction commission a couple of years ago. they are both in town trying to pound a sense at into elected leaders. evan thomas has been out of town promoting his book, "ike's bluff." terrific christmas present. >> thank you. >> as i recall, we were having the same composition we are having now. >> like groundhog day. talk about bluffing -- they will be complete unreasonable until the last second
what is your government doing for you today? is it preparing to drive itself over a cliff like thelma and louise? >> despite the claim that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next year. >> if we go over the cliff, you are going to have a slowdown in economic growth of at least a 4%. that puts...
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. >> what does the federal government do? >> the federal government considered pot the same as lsd and heroin. >> same classification of drug. >> heroin. i didn't even know heroin still existed. apparently it still does. and pot does, too. the difference is you can grow heroin in your backyard. you can grow it -- >> grow marijuana you mean. >> i'm sorry, grow marijuana in your backyard. >> i don't know that much about heroin but i don't think that's how it works. >> he wants to grow marijuana. okay. >> let me be clear, i didn't make that mistake because i have been smoking anything, i have not, no. it's farcical. this is a generation al issue and the obama administration is going to have to gibe at some point on its theory of law. i think a couple days the u.s. attorney in washington said the federal law trumps what you guys are going. people are going to say no, enough. and the obama administration just started ramping up prosecutions of this. this is unusual for me. >> yeah. do you agree, goldie? >> i do, except heroin is m
. >> what does the federal government do? >> the federal government considered pot the same as lsd and heroin. >> same classification of drug. >> heroin. i didn't even know heroin still existed. apparently it still does. and pot does, too. the difference is you can grow heroin in your backyard. you can grow it -- >> grow marijuana you mean. >> i'm sorry, grow marijuana in your backyard. >> i don't know that much about heroin but i don't think that's how...
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>> ending big government as we know it, that's not going to happen under obama. he will get the taxes and go right on spending, bill. >> i don't know. he said he wouldn't. >> let's not gang up on bill. she turned christmas cheer into a cruel jeer. a louisiana woman rigged her lights to look like a middle finger. apparently a mess seeming to her neighbors over some dispute. probably a recipe or something. cops told sara henderson that the display was involved in obscenity laws. but then she did because the aclu sniffed her out saying giving the bird is free speech. they sent a local letter saying henderson would be fine if she reinstalled the lights. there is a highly offensive christmas light display. and nobody said boo. several years ago they shed light on the perversity in our midtown midst. >> as you know there are thousands of amazing light displays around the city this time of year, but none more incredible than the one here at 49th and 6th. we'll ask a few people what they think. when you look at these lights what comes to your mind? >> many penises. >> it
>> ending big government as we know it, that's not going to happen under obama. he will get the taxes and go right on spending, bill. >> i don't know. he said he wouldn't. >> let's not gang up on bill. she turned christmas cheer into a cruel jeer. a louisiana woman rigged her lights to look like a middle finger. apparently a mess seeming to her neighbors over some dispute. probably a recipe or something. cops told sara henderson that the display was involved in obscenity laws....